{"id":11249,"date":"2025-01-07T10:45:17","date_gmt":"2025-01-07T10:45:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ricardomoinhos.com\/?p=11249"},"modified":"2025-01-07T11:07:49","modified_gmt":"2025-01-07T11:07:49","slug":"ls-central-saas-insights-on-a-409-conflict-error-using-telemetry","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ricardomoinhos.com\/pt\/ls-central-saas-insights-on-a-409-conflict-error-using-telemetry\/","title":{"rendered":"LS Central SaaS – Insights on a 409 Conflict error using Telemetry"},"content":{"rendered":"

Hi,<\/p>\n

In LS Retail, quite often I help partners looking into their customer’s telemetry to solve issues related to deadlocks, performance and other reasons.<\/p>\n

Although is not always easy to spot the root cause for some of the issues, telemetry is a great way to start and get a good overview on the environment and quite often provides you with helpful insights.<\/p>\n

These days we had a partner reporting a 409 Conflict<\/strong> error when replicating sales prices using Web Replication. Web Replication is a feature included in LS Central, that allows you to replicate data between different companies in the same environment, and it uses OData v4 web services under the hood.<\/p>\n

If you have a look at Microsoft documentation, the 409 Conflict<\/strong> error means that there’s a conflict because other process, other than the web service call, has changed the same record – or it might also be because there’s a deadlock time out.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/p>\n

The big question is… but how will I be able to spot what other process have changed the record (or is causing the table to be locked for too long?<\/p>\n

Well, I started digging at telemetry, to see if I couldn’t find something useful there.<\/p>\n

First step was to connect\u00a0the Application Insights resource to the Power BI app provided by Microsoft (https:\/\/learn.microsoft.com\/en-us\/dynamics365\/business-central\/dev-itpro\/administration\/telemetry-power-bi-app#app-on-environment-telemetry).<\/p>\n

Incoming Web Services Calls page <\/strong>in PowerBI app<\/strong><\/h3>\n

I looked at the Incoming Web Services Calls <\/strong>page in the Power BI app.<\/p>\n

I could spot three (3) occurrences of the error:<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Database lock timeouts\u00a0page in PowerBI app<\/strong><\/h3>\n

I looked at the Database lock timeouts<\/strong> page in the Power BI App.<\/p>\n

I could spot three (3) occurrences (same number of occurrences as for the 409 Conflict<\/strong> in the Web Services Calls page) and, in the AL Stack Trace<\/strong>, I could see that it was related to the LSC Web Replication OData Mgt<\/strong> codeunit, that is used in the Web Replication feature.<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/p>\n

Application Insights resource in Azure Portal<\/h3>\n

To go a bit deeper into this analysis, i opened the Application Insights resource in the Azure Portal, to run some KQL queries.<\/p>\n

Database lock timed out events (RT0012)<\/strong><\/h4>\n

To list the Database lock timed out<\/strong> events (RT0012), i ran the following KQL query:<\/p>\n

\/\/ lock timeouts (raw data)
\ntraces
\n| where timestamp > ago(30d) \/\/ adjust to your needs
\n| where customDimensions.eventId == ‘RT0012’
\n| project timestamp
\n, componentVersion = customDimensions.componentVersion
\n, environmentType = customDimensions.environmentType
\n, environmentName = customDimensions.environmentName
\n, aadTenantId = customDimensions.aadTenantId
\n, alObjectId = customDimensions.alObjectId
\n, companyName = customDimensions.companyName
\n, clientType = customDimensions.clientType
\n, alObjectType = customDimensions.alObjectType
\n, alObjectName = customDimensions.alObjectName
\n, extensionVersion = customDimensions.extensionVersion
\n, extensionName = customDimensions.extensionName
\n, extensionId = customDimensions.extensionId
\n, alStackTrace = customDimensions.alStackTrace
\n\/\/ use the KQL snippet parseStackTrace to get bottom of the stack trace details
\n, sqlStatement = customDimensions.sqlStatement
\n, sqlServerSessionId = customDimensions.sqlServerSessionId
\n, snapshotId = customDimensions.snapshotId
\n, sessionId = customDimensions.sessionId
\n, usertelemetryId = case(
\n\/\/ user telemetry id was introduced in the platform in version 20.0
\ntoint( substring(customDimensions.componentVersion,0,2)) >= 20, user_Id
\n, ‘N\/A’
\n)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The output was:<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/p>\n

The conflicts seems to be related to the Item<\/strong> table being updated (and\/or locked).<\/p>\n

Joining Lock timeout events (RT0012) with the Lock snapshot events (RT0013)<\/h4>\n

The telemetry you see for lock timeouts only represents the session that is the victim in a locking issue, not the sessions that hold the locks. When analyzing database lock timeout telemetry, it’s therefore useful to look at combined data from the\u00a0Database lock timed out<\/strong>\u00a0event and\u00a0Database lock snapshot<\/strong>\u00a0events. You might be lucky that the snapshot has captured information from locks that were held when the lock timeout occurred.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

From Microsoft documentation:\u00a0https:\/\/learn.microsoft.com\/en-us\/dynamics365\/business-central\/dev-itpro\/administration\/telemetry-database-locks-trace#troubleshooting-locking-issues-with-telemetry<\/a><\/p>\n

I ran the following KQL query to combine data from different events (RT0012 and RT0013) by using joins<\/em>.<\/p>\n

\/\/ this query shows how to join lock timeout events (RT0012) with the lock snapshot events (RT0013)
\nlet Timeouts =
\ntraces
\n| where timestamp > ago(30d) \/\/ adjust to your needs
\n| where customDimensions.eventId == ‘RT0012’
\n| extend snapshotId = tostring( customDimensions.snapshotId )
\n\/\/ add filters on AAD id and environment name if needed
\n\/\/, aadId = customDimensions.aadTenantId
\n\/\/, environmentName = customDimensions.environmentName
\n\/\/| where aadId == ‘abc’
\n\/\/| where environmentName == ‘def’
\n| project snapshotId, message, timestamp
\n, alObjectIdLockTimeout = customDimensions.alObjectId
\n, alStackTraceLockTimeout = customDimensions.alStackTrace
\n, sqlTableLockTimeout = customDimensions.sqlTableName
\n, usertelemetryId = case(
\n\/\/ user telemetry id was introduced in the platform in version 20.0
\ntoint( substring(customDimensions.componentVersion,0,2)) >= 20, user_Id
\n, ‘N\/A’
\n)
\n;
\nTimeouts
\n| join (traces
\n| where customDimensions.eventId == ‘RT0013’
\n| extend snapshotId = tostring( customDimensions.snapshotId )
\n| project snapshotId
\n, alObjectIdHoldingLock = customDimensions.alObjectId
\n, alStackTraceHoldingLock = customDimensions.alStackTrace
\n, sqlTableLocked = customDimensions.sqlTableName
\n)
\non $left.snapshotId == $right.snapshotId
\n| order by snapshotId
\n| project-away snapshotId, snapshotId1<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

The output was:<\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a><\/p>\n

These insights allowed me to tell the partner that most likely the 409 Conflict<\/strong> error is being caused by some code in their extension, that might be updating the Item<\/strong> table and\/or causing this table to be locked for too long.<\/p>\n

It is now up to them to look and review their own code and find the culprit but, if we had no access to telemetry, it would be a challenge to have some clue on what was possible causing the 409 Conflict<\/strong> and where to start looking at.<\/p>\n

Most likely some debugging would be required but it would be like finding a needle in a haystack and would take longer to find the root cause.<\/p>\n

This was just other example on how telemetry enable me to help partners finding the root cause for issues on SaaS (although is also applicable for on-premises implementations).<\/p>\n

If you would like to hear more about telemetry and how to troubleshoot issues on SaaS, please let me know.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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